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		<title>By: Deena</title>
		<link>http://www.brandonandkatie.com/2010/04/13/a-christians-response-to-copyright/comment-page-1/#comment-80244</link>
		<dc:creator>Deena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howdy just wanted to give you a quick heads up. The words in your article seem to be running off the screen in Chrome. I&#039;m not sure if this is a format issue or something to do with web browser compatibility but I thought I&#039;d post to let you know. The design look great though! Hope you get the problem fixed soon. Cheers</description>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
		<link>http://www.brandonandkatie.com/2010/04/13/a-christians-response-to-copyright/comment-page-1/#comment-27671</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 16:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tracy S,

I suppose it would look a little funny to read my article and see that post on Twitter at the same time. I can certainly appreciate your question for how I see that one is justified and the other is not. I hope my answer is satisfactory for you.

First and foremost, in a matter of days, my two-year contract with AT&amp;T is up. Once I am no longer under contract with them, the phone is officially mine and I am free to do with it as I please. By the letter of the law, I am not breaking the rules of a contract when I am not under said contract.

Secondly, as of July 26, 2010, it is actually &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/07/26/now-legal-in-the-u-s-jailbreaking-your-iphone-ripping-a-dvd-for-educational-purposes/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;no longer illegal&lt;/a&gt; to jailbreak or unlock your phone. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.copyright.gov/1201/2010/Librarian-of-Congress-1201-Statement.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The U.S. government ruled&lt;/a&gt; that customers should be free to make those choices themselves. (Now, none of this keeps Apple from voiding your warranty when you mess with their product, but that&#039;s something else entirely: If I choose to use my product in a way the manufacture advised me not to, then of course they will not cover any damages I caused to the device.)

And since we&#039;re talking about it, let me just throw in the &lt;i&gt;why&lt;/i&gt; I&#039;m wanting to unlock my phone. My wife and I are leaving to live and work in Ukraine in just nine days, and we want to be able to use our phones when we are there. Since they are locked to AT&amp;T, they must be unlocked so we can use them with a carrier overseas. Though this would be no excuse if the law said otherwise, but I just thought I&#039;d let you know.

So, to recap, unlocking my phone is not illegal because I am under no contract which says otherwise and, even if I were, the U.S. government has determined such contracts are not binding.

Hope that helped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tracy S,</p>
<p>I suppose it would look a little funny to read my article and see that post on Twitter at the same time. I can certainly appreciate your question for how I see that one is justified and the other is not. I hope my answer is satisfactory for you.</p>
<p>First and foremost, in a matter of days, my two-year contract with AT&#038;T is up. Once I am no longer under contract with them, the phone is officially mine and I am free to do with it as I please. By the letter of the law, I am not breaking the rules of a contract when I am not under said contract.</p>
<p>Secondly, as of July 26, 2010, it is actually <a href="http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/07/26/now-legal-in-the-u-s-jailbreaking-your-iphone-ripping-a-dvd-for-educational-purposes/" rel="nofollow">no longer illegal</a> to jailbreak or unlock your phone. <a href="http://www.copyright.gov/1201/2010/Librarian-of-Congress-1201-Statement.html" rel="nofollow">The U.S. government ruled</a> that customers should be free to make those choices themselves. (Now, none of this keeps Apple from voiding your warranty when you mess with their product, but that&#8217;s something else entirely: If I choose to use my product in a way the manufacture advised me not to, then of course they will not cover any damages I caused to the device.)</p>
<p>And since we&#8217;re talking about it, let me just throw in the <i>why</i> I&#8217;m wanting to unlock my phone. My wife and I are leaving to live and work in Ukraine in just nine days, and we want to be able to use our phones when we are there. Since they are locked to AT&#038;T, they must be unlocked so we can use them with a carrier overseas. Though this would be no excuse if the law said otherwise, but I just thought I&#8217;d let you know.</p>
<p>So, to recap, unlocking my phone is not illegal because I am under no contract which says otherwise and, even if I were, the U.S. government has determined such contracts are not binding.</p>
<p>Hope that helped.</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy S</title>
		<link>http://www.brandonandkatie.com/2010/04/13/a-christians-response-to-copyright/comment-page-1/#comment-27658</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracy S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 15:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brandon, 
Thank you for a well-written article.  I will reference it when explaining to friends the very issues you have identified and provided. - It was exciting and refreshing to see the post.    

Ironically, my eyes caught a twitter feed on the right side of the article:  &quot;@TobyRyan Hey man, I&#039;m needing to jailbreak my 3G so I can unlock it to use in Ukraine. Have any helpful tips or sites to use? I&#039;m lost. 1 day ago&quot;

Do you think that the same responsibilities that you wrote about regarding copyright stewardship for printed materials, cd&#039;s, dvd&#039;s and internet material do not apply to intellectual work of others - like cell phone carriers and manufacturers?   Jailbreaking&#039;s main purpose is to do exactly what you have been preaching about - stealing the property of others.   It allows features to be opened up or exploited that are not otherwise paid for.

Be careful - our actions speak so much louder than words on a page, and it is really unfortunate that many persons half my age will see your wonderful article on copyright stewardship on one hand, but see that you are trying to break someone else&#039;s trademarked, patented, copyrighted ir otherwise protected intellectual work by jailbreaking a phone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brandon,<br />
Thank you for a well-written article.  I will reference it when explaining to friends the very issues you have identified and provided. &#8211; It was exciting and refreshing to see the post.    </p>
<p>Ironically, my eyes caught a twitter feed on the right side of the article:  &#8220;@TobyRyan Hey man, I&#8217;m needing to jailbreak my 3G so I can unlock it to use in Ukraine. Have any helpful tips or sites to use? I&#8217;m lost. 1 day ago&#8221;</p>
<p>Do you think that the same responsibilities that you wrote about regarding copyright stewardship for printed materials, cd&#8217;s, dvd&#8217;s and internet material do not apply to intellectual work of others &#8211; like cell phone carriers and manufacturers?   Jailbreaking&#8217;s main purpose is to do exactly what you have been preaching about &#8211; stealing the property of others.   It allows features to be opened up or exploited that are not otherwise paid for.</p>
<p>Be careful &#8211; our actions speak so much louder than words on a page, and it is really unfortunate that many persons half my age will see your wonderful article on copyright stewardship on one hand, but see that you are trying to break someone else&#8217;s trademarked, patented, copyrighted ir otherwise protected intellectual work by jailbreaking a phone.</p>
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		<title>By: amtog</title>
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		<dc:creator>amtog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 07:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The idea that Paul&#039;s were never commodity doesn&#039;t really advance your point. His letters were personal correspondence. Even under today&#039;s copyright laws, personal correspondence isn&#039;t really in view and so wouldn&#039;t be applied. If I wrote a letter to my wife and she photocopied and shared with everyone in the homeschooling coop, she wouldn&#039;t be guilty of breaking a law. She might be guilty of a breech of trust, but she wouldn&#039;t be accountable before a court of law...as far as I know.

I think you&#039;ve put your finger on a very serious issue: the commoditization of the gospel. (I hold a degree English-I&#039;m allowed to make up new words. :) ) Christian artists need to think about this and the rest of us need to accept that ultimately it&#039;s a matter of the artist&#039;s conscience and we can&#039;t bind our views on them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea that Paul&#8217;s were never commodity doesn&#8217;t really advance your point. His letters were personal correspondence. Even under today&#8217;s copyright laws, personal correspondence isn&#8217;t really in view and so wouldn&#8217;t be applied. If I wrote a letter to my wife and she photocopied and shared with everyone in the homeschooling coop, she wouldn&#8217;t be guilty of breaking a law. She might be guilty of a breech of trust, but she wouldn&#8217;t be accountable before a court of law&#8230;as far as I know.</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;ve put your finger on a very serious issue: the commoditization of the gospel. (I hold a degree English-I&#8217;m allowed to make up new words. :) ) Christian artists need to think about this and the rest of us need to accept that ultimately it&#8217;s a matter of the artist&#8217;s conscience and we can&#8217;t bind our views on them.</p>
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		<title>By: amtog</title>
		<link>http://www.brandonandkatie.com/2010/04/13/a-christians-response-to-copyright/comment-page-1/#comment-26614</link>
		<dc:creator>amtog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 06:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see anyone advocating that Christians should blindly obey the government. In fact, it&#039;s apparent from the other comments that folks are thinking (praying?) about this issue to some degree.

Brandon&#039;s point still stands: the issue at hand is not the morality of copyright law, but whether or not Christians must obey the law. Since copyright law doesn&#039;t violate God&#039;s law, copyright ought to be obeyed by Christians. 

The question, &quot;Must Christians obey a law that is immoral?&quot; is a wider question worthy of discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see anyone advocating that Christians should blindly obey the government. In fact, it&#8217;s apparent from the other comments that folks are thinking (praying?) about this issue to some degree.</p>
<p>Brandon&#8217;s point still stands: the issue at hand is not the morality of copyright law, but whether or not Christians must obey the law. Since copyright law doesn&#8217;t violate God&#8217;s law, copyright ought to be obeyed by Christians. </p>
<p>The question, &#8220;Must Christians obey a law that is immoral?&#8221; is a wider question worthy of discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: amtog</title>
		<link>http://www.brandonandkatie.com/2010/04/13/a-christians-response-to-copyright/comment-page-1/#comment-26613</link>
		<dc:creator>amtog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 06:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When someone who does not have the copyright on a video uploads it to YouTube, that person is guilty of copyright infringement. That person has copied content and then distributed it via the internet. When I watch that video, I support the practice. When I forward a link to the video, I&#039;m supporting the illegal behavior and assisting others to do the same. Clicking the &quot;share&quot; button isn&#039;t illegal in this circumstance but it is unethical because I&#039;m supporting and encouraging illegal behavior.

It&#039;s a different matter when the copyright holder has a &quot;share&quot; feature. 

How do you know if someone has the copyright on specific content on YouTube? Generally speaking, those with the copyright declare it in some manner. Those without the copyright don&#039;t usually declare that they don&#039;t have it. If in doubt, move on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When someone who does not have the copyright on a video uploads it to YouTube, that person is guilty of copyright infringement. That person has copied content and then distributed it via the internet. When I watch that video, I support the practice. When I forward a link to the video, I&#8217;m supporting the illegal behavior and assisting others to do the same. Clicking the &#8220;share&#8221; button isn&#8217;t illegal in this circumstance but it is unethical because I&#8217;m supporting and encouraging illegal behavior.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a different matter when the copyright holder has a &#8220;share&#8221; feature. </p>
<p>How do you know if someone has the copyright on specific content on YouTube? Generally speaking, those with the copyright declare it in some manner. Those without the copyright don&#8217;t usually declare that they don&#8217;t have it. If in doubt, move on.</p>
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		<title>By: amtog</title>
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		<dc:creator>amtog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 06:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You work within the constraints of the law to get the bad law changed. It may not be possible to redress all particular wrongs, so on that score you leave justice to God and do what can be done to prevent future wrongs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You work within the constraints of the law to get the bad law changed. It may not be possible to redress all particular wrongs, so on that score you leave justice to God and do what can be done to prevent future wrongs.</p>
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		<title>By: amtog</title>
		<link>http://www.brandonandkatie.com/2010/04/13/a-christians-response-to-copyright/comment-page-1/#comment-26562</link>
		<dc:creator>amtog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 13:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://amtog.wordpress.com/2010/03/28/lying-theiving-christians/

Here&#039;s a somewhat related topic. I suspect that Brandon and his team will come up against this once they move to Ukraine...provided that they&#039;ve got an internet connection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://amtog.wordpress.com/2010/03/28/lying-theiving-christians/" rel="nofollow">http://amtog.wordpress.com/2010/03/28/lying-theiving-christians/</a></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a somewhat related topic. I suspect that Brandon and his team will come up against this once they move to Ukraine&#8230;provided that they&#8217;ve got an internet connection.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Oct 2010 04:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had to come back and post this mashup someone made about the about the Feeding of the Multitude being like P2P as I pointed out in this thread.
http://www.boingboing.net/2010/10/14/piracy-jesus-did-it.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had to come back and post this mashup someone made about the about the Feeding of the Multitude being like P2P as I pointed out in this thread.<br />
<a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2010/10/14/piracy-jesus-did-it.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.boingboing.net/2010/10/14/piracy-jesus-did-it.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Erika Ward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erika Ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As both a photographer &amp; musician, I am baffled at the attempt to disregard the protection of the copyright from a Christian or secular position.  I agree that the copyright laws are extreme in some instances, but does this make it okay to just ignore a law that we don&#039;t agree with?  There are MANY man-made laws that I object to, but because I am commanded to obey the laws of the land unless they conflict with God&#039;s laws...I obey them.  If we don&#039;t, then we ARE breaking God&#039;s law.  If we don&#039;t pay for intangible goods then we shouldn&#039;t feel it necessary to pay lawyers for their advice, doctors for their diagnostic expertise, athletes for their sports abilities, models for their looks, authors for their words, artists for their skill, maids for their cleaning, preachers for their wisdom &amp; the list goes on and on.  With this line of thinking, no one would get paid for a service.  Many of my photo customers wonder why I charge $19 for a photo that would only cost them 9 cents.  That would be like asking why do I pay thousands of dollars for a work of Van Gough, when the canvas &amp; paints only cost him a few dollars?  We aren&#039;t paying for the tangible good...we are paying for the artistic creation that ONLY that person was able to do...thus we pay for the &quot;intangible&quot; good.  If you want to take your child&#039;s senior pictures and go have them printed for 9 cents, you are more than free to do so.  But please don&#039;t take my time, expertise &amp; talent and then go print up the pictures for 9 cents because you think I charge too much.   The reason you want to come to me is because of my skill in photography, that I have had to spend a LOT of money to perfect.  I believe my viewpoint covers ALL areas of artistic expression.  My business is barely keeping its head above water as MOST people in my profession are struggling due to the dishonest, self-righteous people who think they shouldn&#039;t have to follow this law because &quot;intangible&quot; goods should not be &quot;owned.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As both a photographer &amp; musician, I am baffled at the attempt to disregard the protection of the copyright from a Christian or secular position.  I agree that the copyright laws are extreme in some instances, but does this make it okay to just ignore a law that we don&#8217;t agree with?  There are MANY man-made laws that I object to, but because I am commanded to obey the laws of the land unless they conflict with God&#8217;s laws&#8230;I obey them.  If we don&#8217;t, then we ARE breaking God&#8217;s law.  If we don&#8217;t pay for intangible goods then we shouldn&#8217;t feel it necessary to pay lawyers for their advice, doctors for their diagnostic expertise, athletes for their sports abilities, models for their looks, authors for their words, artists for their skill, maids for their cleaning, preachers for their wisdom &amp; the list goes on and on.  With this line of thinking, no one would get paid for a service.  Many of my photo customers wonder why I charge $19 for a photo that would only cost them 9 cents.  That would be like asking why do I pay thousands of dollars for a work of Van Gough, when the canvas &amp; paints only cost him a few dollars?  We aren&#8217;t paying for the tangible good&#8230;we are paying for the artistic creation that ONLY that person was able to do&#8230;thus we pay for the &#8220;intangible&#8221; good.  If you want to take your child&#8217;s senior pictures and go have them printed for 9 cents, you are more than free to do so.  But please don&#8217;t take my time, expertise &amp; talent and then go print up the pictures for 9 cents because you think I charge too much.   The reason you want to come to me is because of my skill in photography, that I have had to spend a LOT of money to perfect.  I believe my viewpoint covers ALL areas of artistic expression.  My business is barely keeping its head above water as MOST people in my profession are struggling due to the dishonest, self-righteous people who think they shouldn&#8217;t have to follow this law because &#8220;intangible&#8221; goods should not be &#8220;owned.&#8221;</p>
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